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The great granddaughter of Mary Boleyn and William Carey of Aldenham, and mother of Ruth Blount was Penelope Devereux. The history of this family is filled with the intrigues of the courts of both Henry VIII and his daughter Queen Elizabeth I. Mary Boleyn is recorded as having had an affair with the king before her sister Anne became his second wife and the mother of Elizabeth.
Lady Penelope Devereux, although married to Robert Rich (3rd Baron Rich), had an affair with Charles Blount, Baron Mountjoy. Lady Penelope and Charles Blount are documented as having had four children, one of whom was Ruth. Penelope's brother Robert Devereax, the Earl of Essex, a favorite of Queen Elizabeth was eventually tried and sent to the Tower of London where he was executed. After Devereux fell from favor with the Queen, Lord Rich divorced Penelope in 1605. Prior to the divorce, Lord Rich threw Penelope and her Blount children out of the house. She then began living in his house and having a very public affair with Mountjoy. After Queen Elizabeth's death when James I became King of England, he created Mountjoy the 1st Earl of Devonshire.
Once divorced, Penelope and Mountjoy requested to be married in order to legitimize the children but King James I refused. They did marry in a private ceremony performed by Mountjoy's chaplain but afterward were banished from court by King James.
It was not uncommon for young men from well to do families like Christopher Tilghman to leave England and settle in the new colonies. The English practice of primogeniture which is the right of the firstborn child to inherit the family estate was the law or custom at the time of the settlement of the American colonies. Many younger sons who were left to make their own way chose to seek their fortunes in the New World. Here they could own vast tracts of land and become affluent as they never could have in England.
I love genealogy but it has never been my aim to find titled or famous ancestors, this information came to me recently from another researcher who called to my attention the identity of the parents of Ruth Blount (sometimes called Devonshire). It is still amazing to me that these are my ancestors and not just the subjects of history books and PBS series.
Beverly, this is truly amazing! I'm almost reluctant to add it to my tree but if you say it's true I shall. Carole
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DeleteYou might want to hold off on that. Recently I've been trying to verify information from the book published about the Tilghman/Tillman family and I'm finding that there are many errors in that book and I've also seen comments from other researchers that they have found the same things.
I've been through all the probate and tax records of Somerset County, Maryland sorting out the children of Gideon Tilghman, son of Christopher. Then I moved on to North Carolina and I have yet to find something that documents that Catherine Tillman, wife of George Loy, was the daughter of John Tilghman/Tillman and Eva Dryden. Actually I can't find any documentation that John Tillman married an Eva Dryden but various researchers say there is some proof but I would like to know what it is and where to find it.
The good news is that I have found that Margaret, a documented daughter of Catherine Tillman Loy, gave a statement before her death in 1855 that Catherine's name was Tillman and that her grandmother was Mary Elizabeth Tillman. She didn't give the maiden name or Catherine's father's name.
I have no doubt that Catherine was from this family because my two first cousins and I have numerous autosomal DNA matches to Tilghmans which include individuals descending from Gideon Tilghman as well as his brother Roger Tilghman who settled in southern Virginia and changed the spelling of his name to Tillman.
I really have no doubt that this was the family of our Catherine, I would just like to find incontrovertible documentation as to her father's identity!
I know better than to trust these published family histories, but I just went along with the flow of Tilghman descendants taking whatever was in that book as gospel. I'll definitely post something here when I've finished my indepth research for Catherine.
Beverly
Hello, I too am a descendant from this line. I have done a DNA test and have matches dna matches to Johns son Tobias Tillman which is as far back as Ancestry DNA and Wiki-tree will let me. I would like to compare my dna to anyone who has matches to any Tilghman/Tillman/Tilman from this line as I have a couple "loose ends" Thanks for your time Edward Tillman
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ReplyDeleteThanks for writing and sharing your Tillman connection. My Tillman ancestor is my 4th great grandmother Catherine Tillman believed to be Tobias' sister probably because they are the only Tillmans documented as having been in Orange County NC prior to the Revolution. That makes Catherine 6 generations back so I doubt that it's close enough for you and I to have a match but I'll go to Ancestry and check a little later.
You would probably benefit from having a Y-DNA test at Family Tree DNA. Y-DNA is passed from father to son for unending generations. My family had daughtered out so a few years ago I paid for a 2nd cousin Reeves male to do the Y-DNA test and have never been sorry. Y-DNA has solved countless mysteries in our Reeves' Project. See FtDNA's information and pricing at - https://www.familytreedna.com/products/y-dna.
Feel free to write me to discuss DNA or what Tillman history I've collected if you want at Beverly_wat@msn.com.
Hey to all, We descend from Christopher and Ruth, Eastern Shore, Va./Md. Son: Gideon Sr. Tilghman + Margaret Mannocks/Mannix/Manaux > Gideon Jr. + Esther Holland > Joseph Tilghman + Nancy Harris > John Oliver + Clarinda Ellen Conyers >Anna Eliza Tilghman + Nathan Sharpless Galloway > George Hartley Galloway + Harry H Davis (my grandparents)... Something many descendants may not know. Those who descend from Gideon Sr. and Margaret Mannocks will have some Native ancestry with the Powhatan Tribes (likely Nansemond)...This can be found on a site known as "The Miles Files" under the name John Robins (Nansemond). Our Grandparents Malcum Thomas (Planter) + Katherine (half Indian) were murdered in their home in 1675 during the build up to "Bacons Rebellion". And yes Ruth Devonshire does have royal ancestry as do the Tilghman's. Frank
ReplyDeleteHello, Frank, I'm trying so very to find an ancestor for the Jamestown Society. I sure wish it could be Christopher Tilghman II but Accomac Co. isn't close enough to the 'Jamestown' area to count (even tho George Menifee brought him from England. Altho many claim that he died in James City, I don't think that can be proven?. I descend from Christopher Tilghman II and Ruth D. > Gideon Sr. and Margaret Mannocks > John Tobias and Eva Dryden > Tobias and Catherine Sharp (one of my DAR supplements is thru Tobias Tillman Sr > David Gibbs and Sarah Tillman > Alexander Wiley Richradson and Elizabeth Gibbs > W Logan Richardson and Harriet Scrivner > Elijah R Leach and Laura Ellen Richardson > Preston L Leach and Nancy Adkins > Grover C Leach and Della Jones (my grandparents).
DeleteI don't believe there were any early colonists at Jamestown from the Tilghman or Tillman family. You can see a listing of Jamestown colonists at Wikipedia here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jamestown_colonists
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